If you wanna be an entrepreneur, you've gotta HUSTLE! And if you're in the manufacturing industry, you're also making parts. Grimsmo balances running the shop/being the boss, with learning the new machine.
On Grimsmo's decision to buy a Kern...
“You’ve restored harmony” - Saunders
It's not two lathes against one mill, now there will be an equal number of each.
Y aren't you working?!
Grimsmo struggles with the Y-axis of his Swiss lathe.
“Every time I think I get it, there’s another little headache” - Grimsmo
“You have to get your mind into it. It takes time to warm up. You can’t just hop between modes” - Saunders
Saunders and Grimsmo talk about strategies to balance machine time with other priorities, like thinking deeply, and home-life.
A Saunders' tip: Voice notes bring you back to the way you were feeling when you took a note.
Tool Tracking Strategies
Saunders is using AirTable
Grimsmo is using ProShop and his 3D printer
When to go BIG...and when to 3D print -1 chips
Grimsmo and Saunders discuss when to come up with a cheap solution to a problem...even when there's already a tool-for-that out there.
Saunders is off to DC for the unveiling of the previously secret project. Didn't make it to the Air and Space Museum on July 18th? Check out the project in this video.
Apollo 11. Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. 50th Anniversary. Adam Savage. Project Egress---need I say more!? SMW was given an amazing opportunity to collaborate with other makers and Adam Savage's team to make an Apollo 11 hatch door replica for the 50th anniversary of the lunar landing. If you'd like to see the assembly of the door on July 18, 2019, click here for details!
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TOP OF THE LINE, END OF THE ROAD: KERN
Still reeling from the arrival of the Tornos, Grimsmo makes a
NEW MACHINE ANNOUNCEMENT! He shares his story about visiting Kern, why it's right machine and why it's the right time! Get in on the juicy details about the machine specs and options.
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Lights Out Production on the NAK!
Grimsmo comes in to find his Nakamura STILL churning out delrin bearing cages for the Norseman. Once Grimsmolocks finds a new shop, a bar feeder will soon follow--just think about the production possibilities!
Slow Down For Lights Out?
In the machining community, many talk about slowing down operations when the lights go out, but why? The Johns take their best guesses; process reliability, extended tool life? At this speculative stage, the benefits of slowing down are difficult to understand, especially when it comes to consistency.
WHAT'S THE WORD FOR THAT?
What we DO know is that when the toilet brush is closer....we're more likely to give the bowl a scrub. We've been there; excited about a project only to realize the tools needed aren't handy or there's a nagging, tedious task that must be completed before moving forward. It's not exactly laziness but this tangential mini-task sucks away joy and focus; resulting in either procrastination OR failure to complete the task at all.
Saunders challenges the audience to come up with a word for this!
The Elements of a Machine Shop: Coffee, Coolant, Oil, and FIRE!
Swiss Lathe Update?
“I have both crashed it and set it on fire” - Grimsmo
About the fire…it wasn’t THAT bad
Folks from the manufacturer of Grimsmo’s Mist Collector reassure Grimsmo that the machine is usually completely fine after a small fire like that.
Regardless...GRIMSMO PARKING LOT TEST OF THE FLAMMABILITY OF OIL COMING SOON
“You don’t want to talk about crashing your machine, but this is a safe place” - Grimsmo
Is a Swiss worth the risk?
Despite the fire, Grimsmo still thinks he might have been better off if he got the Swiss before his conventional lathe.
Breaking down the pros and cons to buying a Swiss before a conventional lathe
“The swiss is a little more complicated” - Grimsmo
“But when has that ever stopped you” - Saunders
Grimsmo moves onto the second part he’ll have made on his Swiss lathe: spacers for the knives
How do I get started as a machine shop?
Saunders answers this question by differentiating between simply selling a product, and running a business.
“Think about how your work affects your customers!” - Saunders
Making your services more convenient, and improving customer service, pushes you PAST the competition.
“It’s easy to do, but it’s easier not to do. That’s why so many people don’t do it” - Grimsmo
“If you have to have an excuse, that’s your problem. Not your customer’s problem” - Saunders
Learn more about this topic in the book How to Win Friends and Influence People
Saunders thanks the audience; his wife is doing great! And is even back to work!
Check out the NYC CNC Hermle video
And it was ALL a dream
You can be a machinist and a dreamer at the same time. You just might dream about different things. Saunders, for example, gets a killer deal at an auction on a machine!!...in his dream
In the DC area on July 18? Come to the Air and Space Museum!
Saunders will be there hanging out and watching a demonstration. More details in this episode.
Apollo 11. PARTS. NASA. SMITHSONIAN. ADAM SAVAGE??
Breaking the Silence on Project Egress!
This "Top Secret" mission is a collaborative, maker-inspired, project to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 lunar landing. Saunders shares his crazy story about what the project is, why it's so important, how it ties into his renewed passion for 5-axis machining, and why he's ready to get a "real" lathe!
If you want to meet up and see the project, swing by the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C. on Thursday, July 18th!
Collet Bushing Drama
Old Red, White, and Blue won't provide the proper sized thread,
so he turns to the Swiss for an answer instead.
Until the custom collet bushing arrives, the Tornos is a chucker lathe. Although there were some concerns about long stickout and tool deflection, surprisingly, the Tornos is STILL dead nuts!
Swiss Training Continues
The Tornos has made over 500 parts so far! By making what is essentially a dowel pin, Grimsmo's learning how components of the machine work together. Also, his familiarity with FANUC control on the Nakamura comes in handy.
Can I Get Your Digits?
Instead of 4 digits, the Swiss has 5....meaning Grimsmo
can move the machine in increments of ten millionths!
THE PRICE IS RIGHT...BUT IS THAT ENOUGH?
So you're in the market to buy a machine but before you do,
there are considerations you may not have thought about! Check out Guide to Buying CNC Machines.
Don't Judge an Endmill by its Coating!
A while back, Saunders mentioned his preference for owning uncoated endmills to avoid having material-specific tools. In theory, this makes sense but Laurens steps in to set Saunders straight! Sure, the coating is something to consider but there are other characteristics such as the edge grind on the flutes and relief that are MUCH more important.
Easy as 1-2-3!
It's easy to commit to recording this podcast every week when you love it!
“This is one of my favorite things to do each week” - Saunders
“This podcast is a safe space for us to brag OR complain” - Grimsmo
Even after so many episodes, the podcast’s format remains the same: two buddies gush over machining, the challenges that come along with it, and running a business.
The Swiss Lathe TURNS into a conventional lathe (for now)
A fluke in the order for guide bushing delays the Swiss Lathe from being used to its full potential for almost a month.
Not to fear, it will still be making chips! Grimsmo explains how.
Keep it clean.
With such a small space, Grimsmo is finding it hard to keep the shop clean and organized. Saunders and Grimsmo talk shop organization and maintenance.
Should YOU be worried about someone copying your idea for a product?
Saunders and Grimsmo discuss this, how they’ve handled this question in the past, and how making the right call on this issue can help your business thrive.
“I’ve never been worried about a copy because people are buying a brand from us” - Grimsmo
Check out the book Blue Ocean Shift for further discussion of this topic.
“Don’t ask your friends and family for feedback!” - Saunders
You want feedback from the context of the market in which your product will be sold.
Speeds and Feeds
Saunders and his team gear up to launch their biggest project yet: redefining how the machining world consumes and learns speeds and feeds!
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How to create a system that is beyond yourself and your personal calendar
Having a business means involving your team in process changes, and system implementation. Saunders and Grimsmo brainstorm ideas on how to do this.
That’s SO metal, man.
Discussion of different types of metal. Which metal works for your project?
YOU BETA NOT MISS THIS!
Saunders and his team gear up to launch their biggest project yet: redefining how the machining world consumes and learns speeds and feeds!
Sign up to be notified about the beta launch HERE!
BladeShow Brain Blur
Erik & Jo (pronounced Yo) drive the tail of the dragon on the way to the most important show of the year. Although booth decor might not be their forte, who needs a fancy booth when you go #fullgrimsmo? Still reeling from the deep conversations in the pit, the fun, the excitement, and the "in-person refreshers," Grimsmo returns with the warm fuzzies and deep gratitude. A few days later, he's clear, motivated, and ready to hit the ground running with ideas inspired by the show's synergistic effect.
EMPTY YOUR POCKETS!
What EDC items are in your pockets? Is it a knife, pen, flashlight, a tape measure--maybe that's only a Jimmy Diresta thing.... No matter what you carry, those items need to be tough!
"I've been really wanting to take a SAGA and just kinda throw it down the road and see what happens."- Grimsmo in reference to testing the durability of his pens.
Don't worry, if you ever suddenly get the urge to chuck your SAGA down the street, don't worry! Replacement parts will be available.
TAKE A DUMP
Grimsmo was asked to do a full-on pocket dump at BladeShow! Find the video HERE on BEST DAMN EDC's Channel!
Not only are we talking about pants pockets, we're also talking about tool changer pockets. Although Grimsmo got a steal of a deal on used Eumach machines from Miltera, time will tell if it's going to be more money and hassle than it's worth.
Sometimes you have to take a gamble! Despite knowing there's a chance that the Eumachs might might blow up in his face literally and financially, there'a also a chance that it could be AMAZING!
It's definitely time to get a new shop but how can you get a jump on planning the layout if you haven't locked down a building yet?
RASK ME ANYTHING YOU WANT!
With the eventual return of the Rask, you know the Linda Wheel Saga must also return! The team is ahead on Norseman production thanks to Angelo and now they're using downtime to improve the process and sift through the nitty gritty details to get a proper GK blade finish.
Saunders pushes through the pain of a bowling injury. He's still tough enough to make parts on his new 5-axis machine! And there's SO MUCH to learn about it.
Saunders wants to work on the 6th side of a part with his 5-axis, and then eventually tab it off
Let's start a tab.
Saunders gives some tips on how to tab off a part, and what he's learned since starting to play with his 5-axis.
"Filing is not great, scotch brite wheels work but it’s not the best. The trick is just to get really good at tabbing" - Saunders
QoftD: How are X and Y handled by the post?
Learn more about this in Saunders' recent video
ELIMINATE THE RISK OF TOUCHING YOUR TOOLS OFF
Meanwhile, there should be a better way in Fusion to do tool orientation.
“I would absolutely consider a 2 or 300 tool machine now” - Saunders
More and more Swissish everyday
Grimsmo is getting the Swiss lathe all set up, and it's bringing the team closer together (quite literally)
"The shop is TIGHT" - Grimsmo
“In the ideal shop you never have to say excuse me” - Angelo
The Grimsmo shop is running out of floor space, but everyone is being a good sport and is excited about the new machine!
More to come once Grimsmo translates the french manual that came with one of the components of the machine...or maybe he'll just get an English one.
Fun Fact: Grimsmo’s Swiss lathe was made in the Tornos factory in Taiwan. Up until that factory was planted, Tornos had really only been in Switzerland land and, after 150 years of being in the same location, the CEO says "It was SO nice to start from scratch!"
Prune the beautiful tree that is your machine shop.
“A purge every once in a while is not enough, I want to be pruning the tree and regularly cleaning things out” - Saunders
Swiss Lathe timeline
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Grimsmo’s got blade show this weekend!
Catch him and his team at booth 952.
BE AWESOME: BE BETA!
For over a year and a half, Saunders and his team have been pouring themselves into a new business venture!
John considers this "the biggest thing he's ever done" and rightfully so.
The goal: redefining the way the machining world consumes and learns speeds & feeds.
Click HERE to be notified when the beta launches!
Using the tried, true, cheap, and beloved superglue workholding technique, Grimsmo was finally able to machine those mother-of-pearl inlays for knife #1000!
After that, it's off to BladeShow with the other knives, pens, and coins....wait, did you say coins!? This year, Grimsmo's chipping in a little extra awesome token of appreciation.
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Tornos - Yeah, I got time for that.
Grimsmo's comfortable with the pace of the Tornos setup.
With fire surpression installed, next on the list is the
60,000 RPM electric spindle, 2000 psi chip blaster, routing the lines for coolant, and tooling. You know what they say; slow is smooth, smooth is fast!
Activating Tool Coatings with Temperature
When a manufacturer gives S&F recommendations, the variance can be pretty wide.
Saunders wants to figure out how to improve tool life on an OSG A tap. Is running it at 35-40 SFM fast enough to make use of the tool coating?
Hard Wired Hustler
If your ultimate goal isn't sipping a fruity drink on Cabo beach, that's okay!
Many entrepreneurs seek to find a path to freedom in terms of time and money but to others, that's pure boredom.
Hustle Good, Hustle Bad?
What's your definition of hustle and grind? This phrase carries conflicting ideas. On one hand, society idealizes those who push themselves to the brink and on the other, it means if you're NOT frantic and exhausted, you're inadequate and lazy. These concepts cause an internal struggle between expectations and reality so, it's not about whether or not you should hustle...it's about HUSTLING THE RIGHT WAY.
Speaking of the right way to hustle, what would Jay Pierson Say?
When you're trying to find a solution or advice, it's helpful to
think about how those you admire most would respond.
HOW TO BEAT THE COMPETITION
If you want to get ahead of your competition, click HERE to watch Jay Pierson's IG video where he stresses the importance of doing things others won't do AND how freeing up time for himself and his employees has allowed his business to improve!
You won’t be driving around in a parking lot for this episode, folks. It’s our shortest one EVER! Grimsmo's got some swiss lathe installation guys in this morning, and sometimes the work day starts earlier than 9am
Grimsmo Recieves his Tornos Swiss Lathe
The Grimsmo workshop has changed. There is now a new machine behind Grimsmo, and lots of set up to do.
About the Lathe:
Saunders’ Surgeon Mentality
Strategy to keep you clear headed, patient, and focused on the task at hand. Rushing will just end up causing more problems in the end.
Question of the Day: How do you stay focused while remaining available to help?
Saunders gives some good advice on this topic
Check out Tim Ferris for more advice on how to focus
Lean goes wrong?
Is there room for some fat in a company’s diet?
This is the theme of a potential video that might be done in collaboration with Jay Pierson. Saunders gives a little teaser.
Get your computer to automatically do things for you.
Colorization > Comparison
PSA: Saunders and Grimsmo learn about the comparison view on Fusion. It’s a fun little tool, and something that both the Johns will be playing with. Let us know if you’ve heard of it before, and how you use it!
IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN....
BLADESHOW 2019 is just shy of 3 weeks away and GK is ready.
On their 8th year of attendance, something is different.
The usual 2-week, frantic crunch to stock up on product IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT. Not only do they have knives and SAGA pens ready, the 1776 American Independence knife is nearly finished aside from some final engraving!
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**You know you're a machinist when you measure time by trade show events.**
A New Business Diagnostic
If your company is growing, there's an important question to ask yourself: How does our business appear to a new hire? Are the roles, departments, and protocols clearly defined? Not only can this question give an outside perspective, it can also help you assess and diagnose problem areas.
Suffering for Success?
Hollywood has left no industry unscathed when it comes to dramatic portrayals. The question is, how much has it impacted your expectations? Just because you're not endlessly toiling away in a dank, dark shop fraught with impossible odds doesn't mean you're not hustling. Let's call it "grinding smarter, not harder."
The Million Dollar Question: HOW DO I GET MY BUSINESS STARTED?
Data Tracking & Mentorship
Shortly after Barry was hired as the GK accountant, production significantly improved--and that's not a coincidence! Grimsmo stresses the importance of tracking data. More specifically, how much product you need to produce to stay consistent.
Saunders recommends checking out SCORE, the nation's largest network of volunteer, expert business mentors.
Technically, there isn't a right or wrong way to get started; however, there are ways to increase chances of success. Avoiding debt as much as possible continues to be at the top of the list. Plus, Saunders announces that CHIP BREAKS will be making a come back in the near future!
TOMORROW, TOMORROW, The SWISS WILL COME TOMORROW...It's ONLY a DAAAAAY AAAAA-WAAAAY.
We just want to know...does the 6000lbs INCLUDE the Fanuc manuals or is that an additional 6000lbs? Since it's Friday, enjoy this IG post of Grimsmo's new Tornos!
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Don't forget to use this promo code to get your Fusion 360 Academy pass for $99 (HALF OFF!).
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Although this term is usually in reference to stress, this time it's literal. Saunders gears up for a lesson in bushcraft.
Routine Maintenance - Like a Boss?
Learning the inner workings of a machine is just as important as learning the inner workings of your brain.
Could Grimsmo's nightly walks and new to-do list system be paying off? For the past week, the team's been busting out SAGA pocket clips like nobody's business!
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Check your to-do list and watch the David Allen TED Talk <--click here!
Badge It Up
Saunders marvels at Grimsmo's Dura Vertical sticker collection. Speaking of stickers, SMW just stickered and shipped a box to Blackforest, Germany containing a Robin Renzetti-inspired, modified, lathe tool-post.
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Robin Renzetti: THE SOLID TOOL POST MOUNT <--click here to watch
Intricacies of 5-Axis Machining
Saunders delves into the specifics of the first UMC-750 5-axis part including the material, workholding, toolpaths, CAMplete, tooling, and how part of it KICKED HIS BUTT.
Wax, Wane, and Lightning Bolt
Sometimes you don't realize your excitement and passion has waned until you suddenly get a jolt. Having 100% adoration for your profession 100% of the time is nothing to be guilty about---IT'S NORMAL!
Grimsmo: BTW, I crashed the lathe last week.
Saunders: You're just going to casually throw that in there 27 minutes into the podcast!?
Grimsmolocks & The Precious Real Estate
Still on the hunt for a new shop, square footage is tricky to determine for a growing company. He doesn't want a space that's too big; he wants a space that's JUUST right.
Fly on the Wall (well, kinda)
Saunders wishes he could shadow Grimsmo for a day, but only if he didn't know he was there. The question is, will a set of headphones and a laptop make him inconspicuous enough?
GK is getting into cryogenics so they can freeze themselves and wake up in the future---j/k (at least about the freezing themselves part). Get the scoop on how and why they use cryo at GK!
The 1776 American Independence knife is about to be engraved with some 13 colony action for its BLADESHOW debut.
If you're in the neighborhood, come say hi!
Topics of Discussion:
People are different, but the Johns have more than just their name in common. They also think too much.
“Everyone thinks they’re normal” - Saunders
How else are people different?
“At the end of the day, doing is what gets things done” - Grimsmo
Episode Golden Nuggets:
Power (of) Walking
Grimsmo gets some exercise to clear his head, and get some time out of the windowless shop.
The FORCE of Chill
Don’t be frantic. Be the ultimate “single-tasker”, and focus like a surgeon.
"What will it look like to me when it’s done? - Grimsmo
Define the outcome, and take practical steps to NAIL IT.
Talking Growth and the Entrepreneur Mindset
Having a team doesn’t mean you’re not an entrepreneur anymore. You still have to clean those toilets!
“When you live it it’s not cliche at all” - Saunders
Grimsmo is more and more comfortable with delegating tasks, which is awesome! But don't worry, he is still around to help whenever his team needs him.
Hear about what Grimsmo’s been up to, and what local day trips he’s had lately (hint: true to Grimsmo’s nature, the trips involve machine shops)
“You’ve gotta live in the clouds AND the dirt” - Gary Vee
Translation: keep dreaming, but also keep working.
“If you’re never in the clouds, you suffocate” - Saunders
Saunders loses an old friend: his forklift. Grimsmo and Saunders also talk about the potential horrors of neglecting workplace safety.
“it’s like driving past a car crash, you can’t NOT look” - Saunders (QotD: Does that make him morbid?)
Should Grimsmo write off his pen clip probs?
The Johns discuss the problems that Grimsmo is having with machining his pen clips, and problem solving strategies in general. If this problem isn’t fixed, Grimsmo might have trouble nailing down a sustainable workflow for the part.
The Joint Open House - 8 Years Strong
Grimsmo remembers how he felt when he first went to a trade show: out of place.
Tip from a veteran attendee: "Form relationships, ask questions, be direct, and make it happen." Not only was this event an internal pat on the back, you could say that Skye's big wish has been granted or rather, GRANITED.
After visiting Kern, Grimsmo's wheels are turning. It's just a matter of time before he figures out how to dress the lapping plate full Grimsmo style.
You know you're a machininst when the only tattoo you would ever consider is an inch to micron conversion table.
Mountains to Ski and Mountains of Footage
The guys brought home TONS of footage from their Euro trip, so
stay tuned for all of the awesome tours to come from Tornos, Hermle, Kern, and more!
TACrafted Tour - A bright young man with a bright future
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Sometimes what you're looking for might be right under your nose, or in Grimsmo's case, a block away. After a quick meeting with his realtor, he might have zeroed in on a potential new shop! When considering a larger space, it's important to allow for growth without over committing.
Saunders is a guest on the Welding Tips and Tricks Podcast
While covering the subject of ROI, the importance of CASH FLOW BUDGETS or live budgeting becomes clear. Sure, numbers matter BUT there are many non-monetary ways in which a capital purchase can be justified.
Spring Tease a.k.a Pending Summer
The season change is welcome BUT that means rising temperatures
are soon to follow. A/C is an expensive purchase but it's important for SMW to have a comfortable working environment for employees and trainees as well. It's up to Saunders to figure out how to minimize the operating costs while maximizing its benefit.
"Make it once, make it right, and then make it the best.
The SAGA pocket clips are the last component needed to make 100+ SWEET PENS!
SMW Workflow Woes
Having all fixture plate models in a master file isn't ideal BUT neither is having an individual file for each. The possible solution might introduce more error.
The Grimsmo Team is headed to a local machine show!
The Joint Open House
Participants include: Elliott Matsuura, SST, Ferro Technique, and DMG Mori.
It will give Grimsmo and his team a chance to ask lots of questions, and learn new things. There’s a lot of small tooling reps there, so it’s a good chance to make new connections as well as build current relationships.
“I’m actually kind of jealous” - Saunders
How to Maintain Tool LIfe
PLUS Learn about automation in tool maintenance!
In Germany, the machine knows when it needs to warm up and runs the warm up program so you don’t have to think about it.
The Johns discuss their trip to Europe
Saunders was there for 2 weeks, and Grimsmo for four days
Look out for the factory tour of Kern and Tornos on YouTube (COMING SOON!!)
So...how do you inspire young people to get into manufacturing?
If they’re already interested in technology, it’s a breeze! Guess what, Manufacturing IS technology (which makes it sexy)
Keeping track without living to track
It’s SO difficult to keep track of purchasing and what we need
“Purchasing is kicking our butt right now” - Saunders
ProShop is doing a good job at the Grimsmo Shop. He has a list of what he’s waiting to get, and it gets checked off when it arrives.
Grimsmo Book Review
This book isn’t for everyone, but it’s got some great ideas for every entrepreneur or busy person!
Core concept: every thought you have, write it down into a system you have in place.
How do you manage ALL the things you need to get done?
“If most of it doesn’t get done, life still goes on” - Grimsmo
“Ideas are worthless, it’s execution that matters” - Saunders
EUROTRIP 2019: A Dream Come True
First off, apologies for the missing podcast last week but it wasn't because they didn't try! With Laurens Wijnschenk-Mauritsz in tow, it was the prime opportunity to record. The problem? A sleepy cell phone!
Although Grimsmo's returned to Canada, Saunders is adamant, "There are more factories and I'm not leaving until I see them ALL!"
"Screw it, let's do it!" - Grimsmo
With only 6 days notice, a gentle nudge from Saunders, and help from Marv Gro, Grimsmo is able to arrange his flight and score incredible tours of TORNOS and KERN.
Before embarking on his trip, Grimsmo makes a pit-stop at Elliot-Matsurra to sign Swiss paperwork for the Tornos GT13!
For now, he's prepping for its arrival with coolant, tooling, and the 6' LNS bar feeder. He's also plans to use TISIS, a software that will aid in the programming process.
Oddly enough, when Saunders crosses the border from Austria to Switzerland, the appearance of a Mercedes station-wagon is almost prophetic. To Grimsmo's surprise, his hunks of metal for machining Norseman parts at Kern Microtechnik make it through security!
Factories and Machine Shops, BIG AND SMALL.
This trip isn't only about visiting the biggest names in the industry, it's also about seeing what's cookin' in the impressive home shops of Stefan Gotteswinter and TACrafted with Theo Assfalg.
After visiting 3DTechDraw in Amsterdam with Laurens, Saunders heads to Hermle in Stuttgart, Germany. Meanwhile, in Moutier, Switzerland, the birthplace of Swiss lathes, Marv and Grimsmo meet with Michael Hauser, CEO for an insiders view of Tornos; a company that holds customer support in high regard. They still make replacement parts for lathes that are over 100 years old! Now THAT's customer service!
Heidenhain: More than a great control for your machine.
We take for granted that we live in a world where measurements
are standardized. Back then, these guys were the ones making
copies of THE meter. In addition to manufacturing every single linear scale, Heidenhain might just be the definition of climate control.
Grimsmo and Marv machine a Norseman handle AND do some blade surfacing at Kern Microtechnik. 14+ hours later, it's time for the Johns to finally meet up. A late night with burgers, beers, and friends still reeling from the days' excitement turns into slap happy machinists making CAM jokes before getting some shut-eye.
KERN - The Best in the Land
The guys share their experiences at the uncontested BEST micro precision machine tool company in the world. Hitting sub-micron tolerances ADED means special care must be taken to thermally stabilize the machine tool. When cutting tools MUST be hand loaded because the resistance from the ATC motion could break the flutes...holy moly.
Finally, for Marv and Grimsmo, their trip ends with scenic views and gnarly ski slopes. On the last run, Marv challenges Grimsmo to a race.
Saunders moves onto the NTMA leg of his trip with Big Kaiser America, where he will soon visit Big Kaiser, Blaser, and Speroni.
Trips abroad certainly broaden the mind and bring a fresh new perspective and energy that is sometimes lost in the day-to-day minutiae. The more you know, the better 'cause the times they are A-changin'.
Let the podcast go on!
Saunders may have lost his voice, but that’s not stopping these two from putting out another episode.
Get ready, goal set, go!
Grimsmo is hitting lots of goals lately. The team averaged their ideal daily production number for the ENTIRE month of March!
Grimsmo is also on his final steps of purchasing a Swiss Lathe! Learn more about its specs and the steps Grimsmo is taking to prepare for his Swiss in this episode.
Upcoming goals in the Grimsmo shop:
How to Negotiate
It’s not all about getting a lower price! There’s lots of valuable add-ons or conveniences that you can push for. If you’re the customer, you’re in a position of power! Grimsmo talks about what he negotiated for when shopping for his Swiss, and shares some strategies.
Note: Building relationships with distributors HELPS!
Customer service isn’t everything, but it’s the company’s first impression
“They just make it so easy to buy from them, and their product is quality, so why not!” - Grimsmo
Saunders makes a point for the distributor model
“Sales forces are a relic of the past” - Saunders
What to expect when you’re expecting a Swiss Lathe
Grimsmo researches necessary tooling, and preparations he has to make for his new Swiss Lathe. Watch out for a video on Grimsmo’s YouTube channel where he goes into this more!
Lapping machine vs. a great end mill in a great machine?
Grimsmo talks about tools for getting that perfect mirror finish that the Grimsmo team is quickly becoming known for.
“That is the full-Grimsmo machine!” - Grimsmo
BOM goes international!
Saunders is visiting some machine shops around Europe, and Grimsmo tags along to check out the Kern Factory in Germany, and Tornos in Switzerland. While they’re at it, they plan on taping a BOM episode in Germany.
Word of the day:
In other words, Saunders has his 5-axis Haas machine, and he’s spending some time lately getting to know it and CAMplete. He talks about his 5-axis starter kit, and moving up to technology that seemed almost unreachable before.
AND it’s helping Grimsmo thaw to the idea of learning more about 5-axis machines himself.
Becoming Swissish ROUND 2!
Grimsmo talks about his trip to Elliott Matsuura to check out some Swiss Lathes (one of which might just be purchased by the next podcast episode)
It's all about design, baby
The Johns discuss which design programs they use for their machines, and which ones to use with Swiss Lathes.
Bonus at Matsuura:
THEY HAD A ROUGHNESS TESTER! While Grimsmo visits, he gets to check out the roughness of his blades and handles. In this episode he lets us know the EXACT measurements.
Grimsmo bought an Ultrasonic Cleaner, and Skye approves.
“I wash the parts with water afterwards, and they’re cleaner than I could have gotten them before [having the Ultrasonic]” - Skye
Want to learn more about different kinds of cleaners? Saunders mentions this Wikipedia article as a great resource:
The Johns finish off this episode with talk of other cleaning supplies, cleaning methods, and a couple more notes on Swiss Lathes. Stay tuned.
A Stone's Throw Away
The parallels in the lives of Grimsmo and Saunders are uncanny to say the least. Both get the chance to clear their heads--one on Lake Ontario and the other on Lake Erie.
Full Steam Ahead
During one of the most emotional weeks of his life, Saunders watches on Instagram as the UMC-750 and TM3 are delivered in his absence--and that's a beautiful thing. With a team he can rely on, he's been able to focus his attention on who needs it most: with his wife! We're happy to say Evonne's made it through surgery and on the road to recovery!
Grimsmo gives an occupational talk at a local school. By taking
a hands-on approach, he's creating memorable experiences that resonate with the younger generation.
PLANNING FULL SWISS
Grimsmo knows exactly which part the Swiss lathe will play in shop production. In addition to tool holders, drill holders, and inserts, he plans to purchase a 60,000 rpm (not a typo) electric spindle to mill the torx pattern on the screws!
#7 TOOL UPDATE
In last week's episode, Saunders suggested that Grimsmo try ramping down to solve a recurring tool problem. Did it work?
Phil asks a thought-provoking question about whether or not to alternate between OP1 and OP2 on a 5-axis machine tool with 10 pallets. Short answer: It depends.
Higbee Threads? Tell me more!
With the SAGA having threaded parts, this clearly the way to go FULL GRIMSMO!
When high production is vital to your business, planning ahead for down time when employees are down for the count could make or break.
Although Skye thought he escaped the illness that overpowered his co-workers...he spoke too soon. Angelo steps up to the plate.
NUANCE + PROCESS SHEETS?
After Saunders tours Superb Industries, Inc., the Moore Jig Grinder poses a challenging question. How can you incorporate skilled labor into a process sheet?
Patty Cake, Patty Cake, Baker's Man....How Many Backups Should You Have on Hand?
Having doubles of EVERYTHING is not feasible so that means careful decisions about which replacement items you keep. Lead time, cost, and cash flow are just a few!
TRUST YOUR GUT
Big Kaiser goes haywire, causing SMW to begrudgingly scrap an expensive part. While troubleshooting, Saunders has his finger on it but is none the wiser.
NOT AGAIN, TOOL #7!
Grimsmo arrives to a flashing red light and a broken 1/8" flat 4-flute end mill--and this isn't the first time. When it comes to machining the tabs off of SAGA clips, this tool isn't cutting it (pun intended).
Kyocera Insert Update:
After blowing close to one insert per part, the problem is solved. Now, GK can get 200 + parts out of one insert!
From Swissish thoughts to full Swishish, Grimsmo's zeroing in on the machine GK needs.
In addition to the UMC-750, Saunders makes another purchase that will be a game changer.
Maximizing use of the Mill
Grimsmo’s mill was STILL running when he came in this morning! That is one. Great. First.
On top of that, last week was the highest week ever for production at the Grimsmo shop.
“You keep saying that!” - Saunders
Apparently record breaking is the new norm, and Grimsmo is still trying to produce even more.
“Your spindle is only ever down for a pallet change” - Grimsmo
Do you love history and machining? Freedom’s Forge could be a great pick for you! It dives deep into the history of WWII, while also taking technology and available machines into the equation. Plus, Saunders highly recommends it.
The ULTIMATE machine buying guide
Check out the NYC CNC website for important information and tips on financing your machine, and how to find the right one for your needs.
“Most people don’t mind paying for something, they just don’t want to pay for it if someone else didn’t pay for it or got a better deal” - Saunders
“It only matters what goes into the loan documents in the end” - Saunders
Tidying Up, Saunders Style
Saunders doesn’t regret purging the workshop of unnecessary stuff for one second.
Are YOU ready to binge shop tours?
SIGN UP FOR A SAGA PEN
The time has come for the Saga Sign-Up List to go LIVE! Grimsmo launched it this past weekend as a link on his Instagram bio. More information about the pen will go up on the website soon. For now, you can learn more about the Grimsmo custom pen by checking out the Saga Saturday videos
So, real talk. When is the swiss lathe coming?
Grimsmo and Saunders discuss the need for a swiss lathe in the Grimsmo shop now that producing pens consistently is becoming more imminent.
“I just don’t want to spend a ton of money on bells and whistles I don’t need” - Grimsmo
And it’s also a matter of the machine fitting in the shop. But that's a question for another time.
Proud Machining Moments Hit Home
Sometimes you only need an upward glance to find comfort and strength.
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An epic Lakeshore order is a testament to how far you've come but the past is never too distant.
The Taig ER-16 spindle and some cheap double-sided end mills conjure up fond memories of the early days.
Saunders discusses the emotional impact of a "major curve ball."
This health concern causes terror and confusion, but one thing is clear: it puts life into perspective.
"It's not a sprint. It's a marathon."
YOU ARE WHAT YOU WANT TO BE
Although entrepreneurs are driven by behavioral economics such as fear, convictions and outside interactions, at the end of the day, it's decision time. The Johns discuss how their ideas and plans have evolved.
BOOKS TO HAVE YOUR NOSE IN:
"SPEEDS AND FEEDS ARE YOUR THING." - Grimsmo
"YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET." - Saunders
CASH CRUNCH: How cash flow management can affect your business decisions.
Goals are easy to declare BUT they ignore the actions between.
The Pen and Knife Balance
With limited machines, Grimsmo is always trying to balance knife and pen production. Sometimes he has to get creative.
Saunders and Grimsmo talk tools, and creative solutions to achieve Grimsmo’s high standards.
“That would work, but it wouldn’t be the finish I want” - Grimsmo
Sometimes the solutions are simple.
“We both figured out at the same time that the live tool needed to go first...it’s just one of those little things that takes forever to figure out” - Grimsmo
SMW Bought a 5 - Axis!
It’s a Haas UMC-750, and Saunders signed the paper work for it last week. It should be delivered in about 2 - 3 weeks (so soon!). Look out for the video on Saunders’ YouTube channel. To make space, they would also move the other machines around a little.
“You’ve got your high-end cell, and your training cell” - Grimsmo
Pro-tip: You don’t want too big of a machine because it makes it very difficult to get to a small part, so you have to solve that by lifting the part up high off the table.
Interested in getting trained in 5-Axis machining? Keep following Saunders for updates on potential classes.
“I’ve always been more interested in showing what you can do with a machine, rather than showing what you can’t do with a machine” - Saunders
Grimsmo’s Future 5 - Axis
“I would get a palletized version...Rob Lockwood sold me on the idea” - Grimsmo.
Listen to the episode with Rob Lockwood as a guest! It’s episode 93 of this podcast.
“I try to push the boundaries for accuracy, not so much for power” - Grimsmo
Failed Lean "Fixes"
Collaborative video between Grimsmo, Saunders, and Jay Pierson.
Where have YOU tried to go lean, and it just didn’t work out?
3D Printing without heat...Can it be done?
Saunders tours a revolutionary 3D Printing company called Fabri Sonic.
“You can put electronics in your 3D printed part!” - Saunders
At the end, Grimsmo and Saunders get into measurement techniques, and solving problems by probing. Saunders mentions that he learned a great technique from Edge Precision’s YouTube channel!
It's cold. It's winter. Who cares? Moving on.
This episode is a hodgepodge of entrepreneurial and philosophical gold nuggets.
From Maslow's Hierarchy to epoxy floors, the Johns cover it all.
Even IF we are in a simulation...it doesn't matter!
After watching the Joe Rogan podcast episode featuring David Goggins, Saunders is particularly fired up!
Joe Rogan + David Goggins Podcast Episodes
Rollercoaster of Entrepreneurial Love
It's normal to get down but maybe you have to get down to get back up. Without overcoming struggle, you can't get a sense of accomplishment.
Getting Social In 2019, and sharing reality!
Grimsmo starts to post Instagram stories daily. Bonus: We get more info on the upcoming Saga Pen!
BUT Saunders and Grimsmo agree that they don’t need to stay up-to-date on everything all the time.
“Use Instagram the way that works for you...we’re not just going for clicks and views, we’re trying to build a community of people who care, and want to see what we’re doing” - Grimsmo
Example of a Reality Check: In Grimsmo’s latest video, Jo mentions that we’re using the old tumbler a little more than the new tumbler lately. And that’s just a reality.
Saunders guest stars in another podcast! It’s called The Edge with Bantam Tools
This company is now owned by Bre Pettis, one of the owners of NYC Resistor, and the 3D printer company, MakerBot.
Growing Pains = Long Term Gains
To think about hiring, you’ve gotta think about firing
Saunders and Grimsmo talk about the difficulties of being an entrepreneur.
“I hired too quickly, and I fired too slowly. The problem with having a bottom performer on your team is that he/she gets all the attention, when the second worst performer flies under the radar” - An inspiring entrepreneur Saunders is quoting
“Being an entrepreneur is something I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy, yet all of my best friends are entrepreneurs” - Grimsmo
Great example from The Eagles Biopic on Netflix
What did it feel like when the band broke up? “It was a terrible relief” - Don Henley
Even when there’s no specific problems with the team, as an entrepreneur, it’s still necessary to constantly be thinking about the future (which includes the future of employees).
Saunders and the Mobile Desk
Saunders gets a backup battery for his computer, and sets everything up to be movable. Now he can move his office, into a quieter space.
Let’s talk about finance! Growth eats cash for breakfast!
“I haven’t yet felt the benefits of running a profitable business” - Grimsmo
Saunders and Grimsmo discuss how to regard the finances as accurately as possible.
“Most businesses fail not because of lack of profitability, but because of cash flow”
The Saga: Almost a Year in the Making
The Grimsmo Shop seizes every chance they get to make pen parts when the lathe isn’t making knife parts.
Grimsmo talks about Angelo’s strategies to tighten those tolerances on the super small parts of the pen.
Lathe is running well, and Grimsmo adjusted the SFM! What is SFM? There’s a video for that.
Saunders has a question for the audience!
The big fan is great for cooling the air, but we want a better climate control system for the summer.
“I wanna buy a beer for an HVAC guy!” - Saunders
ALARM! Wrong tool in spindle
Grimsmo had two pallets alarm out at one custom code that he had put in. It helps protect his tools and his parts with one warning called “wrong tool in spindle”